Thor & Loki parallel.
haha, i’m not gonna argue that thor’s attitude at the beginning of thor wasn’t horrible and problematic. okay. But Loki’s second chance came in the form of the Avengers… and Thor’s talks with him in attempts to persuade him back. Loki’s second chance even came at the end of Thor, when Thor confronted the Destroyer. Loki’s second chance came when Thor confronted him in the observatory and Loki attacked him.
Loki has had his second chances. He did not take them. He doesn’t want them.
I think the most apt sentence I’ve ever read on this subject was: Thor spent an entire movie offering Loki a second chance and he got stabbed for it.
Man, you could so call me a hypocrite from my time in Who fandom because I justified the FUCK out of the Master’s actions but that was in Classic Who. You never really got to see any of his motivation. He was just doing random fail-tastic things. The most damage he ever caused was really through bumbling.
When you come into New Who with him being a complete compassionless psycho, I’m out. I don’t try to justify or make excuses for him. He crossed a line. And even if I can spin fanon around him to make it understandable WHY he did it, that he saw humans as lesser and unworthy of pity, that he was just so hurt he was lashing out. It still doesn’t make him right. He is still a villain who did horrible shit.
Same case with Loki. Boy just lost it and his pride or madness kept him from admitting he was wrong. Thor was not the best dude but he learned and grew as a person, Loki just let his problems take him completely and wouldn’t accept help.
I…sort of agree? I agree that it’s unfair to compare Thor’s attitude at the beginning of the movie to Loki’s actions at the end—the parallels are definitely there, but I think they’re there to indicate how much Thor has changed and matured compared to Loki, who hasn’t. And Loki has also been offered second chances several times in The Avengers and at the end of Thor, and he rejected them. That’s on him, I agree.
However…I don’t know, for me it’s kinda difficult to explain the different paths each took at the end of the movie by saying, “Well, Thor took that second chance because he’s a Good Guy, and Loki didn’t because he’s a Bad Guy.” Thor’s second chance came in the form of a lesson—he was stripped of his powers and banished to Earth, where he learnt humility by relying on the kindness of strangers and the value of (non-Aesir) life by befriending these strangers. The movie was like Thor-in-process, how Thor’s experiences on Earth molded him from a belligerent, entitled prince to the hero we know him to be in The Avengers. Loki had no such journey. Nothing in the movie really challenged any of his preconceived notions about other species. (Finding out that he was a Jotun really rocked his world, of course, but his own self-esteem issues meant that that realization only intensified an already-existing hatred.)
(I mean, OK, as much as I believe that Odin tries to be a good dad, he really doesn’t know what’s going on with his sons. The guy never realized that Thor might not be ready for the throne until he almost started another war with Jotunheim. Loki, whose character flaws are much more subtle than Thor’s (though probably more destructive) is gonna fly right under Odin’s radar.)
I guess what this boils down to is: yes, Loki, out of anger, pride, and self-pity, refused Thor’s offer of help several times. But he also didn’t share the sort of experience that Thor had, that might have given him the impetus to change himself.
tl;dr: Loki’s decisions are a result of BOTH internal character flaws and external factors/experiences. You can’t oversimplify it in one direction or another!